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CHAPTER SIX

Dr Williams argues against digital detoxes as an enduring solution:

 

Dr Williams argues for a deeper solution:

 

The magician James Brown explains a magic trick to me. We were speaking in London:

 

Tristan Harris explains magic. We spoke in San Francisco and via Zoom and phone. The quotes here are from a range of those conversations:

 

Mr Harris discovers studying at the Persuasive Technologies Lab at Stanford:

 

And more:

 

Mr Harris discusses his work at Google:

 

Mr Harris discovers being freaked out by a class at Stanford:

 

Mr Harris discusses how things look even worse from inside the tech industry:

 

Mr Harris discusses his time at Google:

 

Mr Harris talks about a frightening change he saw happen:

 

Mr Harris talks about Instagram:

 

Mr Harris talks about the importance of how we design technology:

 

Aza Raskin discusses the role of technology. We were talking on the phone:

 

Aza Raskin explains infinite scroll:

 

Mr Raskin discusses further:

 

Mr Raskin explains the problem:

 

Mr Raskin explains his deepest concern:

 

He explains further:

 

He discusses how the logic seems to take over everything in Silicon Valley:

 

He explains the incentives driving Silicon Valley:

 

He gives a powerful metaphor for what has happened:

 

He explains how many people have been disturbed by these changes:

 

He explains the irony of mindfulness workshops at Facebook and Google:

 

Dr Williams explains a key moment at a tech conference:

 

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