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CHAPTER EIGHT

I interviewed Nir Eyal in depth and because it is one of the few contentious interviews in the book, I am posting the full audio here on the website so people can hear Nir’s responses in full. I have trimmed out one section to protect the privacy of a relative of mine and of one other person:

Professor Ronald Purser critiques “cruel optimism.”:

 

Professor Purser explains the problem with this approach:

 

CHAPTER NINE

Mr Raskin explains the idea of banning surveillance capitalism:

 

Mr Raskin explains what would happen next if we banned surveillance capitalism:

 

He discusses further:

 

He discusses other possible changes:

 

He continues:

 

He explains the advantages of this:

 

He continues:

 

He talks about how these technologies might become more invasive if they aren’t regulated:

 

He continues:

 

Jaron Lanier offers a chilling insight. We were talking in Berkeley, California:

 

Dr Williams explains reform is possible:

 

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